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  • Dal 2/1/8 al 6/1/8 (Praga).

    ciao ragazzi!! scusate se scrivo qui.....non sapevo a chi chiedere o come fare! abbiamo acquistato un viaggio per praga....cosa potrei chiedervi in merito?? ci saranno negozi di rettili da quelle parti? on line ho trovato solo info su una serra che ha (dicono) molti animali esotici.....fra cui rettili!! (se non altro...potro' scattare qualche foto, ho una sd da 4g!!) qualcuno sa dirmi se li ci sono tipo allevatori....o magari qualche fiera, mostra....
    Ultima modifica di topolino; 11-12-2008, 20:44.
    There is a pleasure in the pathless woods; There is a rapture on the lonely shore; There is society, where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love no man the less, but nature more...(Lord Byron)
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  • #2
    Di fiere ne fanno una ogni due mesi, dovresti guardare su Reptilia, li sono riportate. C'e' un discreto commercio, ma il 70/80% sono catturoni.
    Sposto nella sezione adatta
    Attualmente allevo:Cordylus beraduccii, Cordylus tropidosternum,Ouroborus cataphractus, Xenosaurus platyceps, Platysaurus imperator, Tiliqua gigas gigas, Tiliqua gigas keyensis, Tiliqua Irian Jaya, Celestus warreni, Egernia frerei, Hemispheriodon gerrardii, Ctenosaura defensor, Lepidophyma flavimaculatum,Geoemyda spengleri
    Contro la stupidita' gli stessi dei lottano invano
    un po' di foto https://www.facebook.com/marconyse/photos_albums

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    • #3
      molto bella praga!
      ci son stato ad aprile,sinceramente non ho cercato negozi di animali,mi son solo imbattutto in un normale negozio-pet in un centro commerciale,niente di eclatante,fatta eccezione per un paio di scimmiette....
      comunque a praga c' mensilmente (se non sbaglio) ziva esotika,guarda se magari cade nel periodo in cui vai...
      in ogni caso a praga ci son molti allevatori,ma ammeno che tu non conosca qualcuno in particolare la vedo difficile visitare i loro allevamenti...
      con cosa vai?riorda che in aereo non puoi riportare niente.
      -''Babbo osa vuol d esse bria?"
      -"Vedi quelle 2 sedie?Quando uno gli bria ne vede 4"
      -''Oh Babbo,ma ce n' una sola!"

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      • #4
        lo so! pero' ho un amico che va da quelle parti....se trovassi qualcosa la farei portare a lui in treno!!
        There is a pleasure in the pathless woods; There is a rapture on the lonely shore; There is society, where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love no man the less, but nature more...(Lord Byron)
        http://www.sanguefreddo.net/showthread.php?61893-Nuovo-terrario-definitivo-per-spikes!!
        http://canedapresa.forumfree.it/

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        • #5
          A proposito allo Zoo effettuano discrete riproduzioni di rettili
          Attualmente allevo:Cordylus beraduccii, Cordylus tropidosternum,Ouroborus cataphractus, Xenosaurus platyceps, Platysaurus imperator, Tiliqua gigas gigas, Tiliqua gigas keyensis, Tiliqua Irian Jaya, Celestus warreni, Egernia frerei, Hemispheriodon gerrardii, Ctenosaura defensor, Lepidophyma flavimaculatum,Geoemyda spengleri
          Contro la stupidita' gli stessi dei lottano invano
          un po' di foto https://www.facebook.com/marconyse/photos_albums

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          • #6
            ho letto che ci sono varie specie....se non trovassi niente almeno mi sbizzarrisco con le foto!! mi dicevano all'agenzia che il taxi costa poco, magari qualche tassista puo' portarmi in qualche allevamento o negozio....ma per riproduzioni, si intende allevamento o animali finti, tipo impagliati?!
            There is a pleasure in the pathless woods; There is a rapture on the lonely shore; There is society, where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love no man the less, but nature more...(Lord Byron)
            http://www.sanguefreddo.net/showthread.php?61893-Nuovo-terrario-definitivo-per-spikes!!
            http://canedapresa.forumfree.it/

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            • #7
              Vado un'attimo OT per non aprire un'altro topic....a Parigi mi sembrava di aver letto che c'era un negozio che meritava, Quale?

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              • #8
                LA FERME TROPICALE - le professionnel du reptile

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                • #9
                  Ah ecco forse avevo letto proprio un post tuo.....sar difficile che abbia tempo di andarci, per almeno so dov'! ..si sa mai...

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                  • #10
                    discrete?
                    Varanus komodoensis
                    Geochelone pardalis pardalis (non la pi comune "babcocki")
                    Heosemys grandis
                    Siebenrockiella crassicollis
                    Mauremys annamensis
                    Malacochersus tornieri
                    Cyclura nubila
                    Varanus indicus
                    Phrynocephalus melanurus
                    ...tra le pi...

                    Inoltre detengono gli studbook per:
                    Cuban boa
                    Cuban ground iguana
                    Malaysian giant turtles and giant Asian pond turtles

                    Non male...
                    date un'occhiata
                    Gallery - Zoo Praha

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                    • #11
                      wow!! la galleria fotografica dello zoo non l'avevo ancora vista!! ma e' una cosa stupenda!! portero' tutte le schede che ho per la macchina fotografica! (2 da 2g. ed 1 da 1g) ce la faro'?! arriveremo li' di mattina....albergo, poso i bagagli e dritto dritto allo zoo!! non vedo l'ora di partire!!!!!!!
                      There is a pleasure in the pathless woods; There is a rapture on the lonely shore; There is society, where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love no man the less, but nature more...(Lord Byron)
                      http://www.sanguefreddo.net/showthread.php?61893-Nuovo-terrario-definitivo-per-spikes!!
                      http://canedapresa.forumfree.it/

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                      • #12
                        Get da quel che ricordo pero' il V. komodoensis e' stato riprodotto dandolo in prestito alle Canarie.... o sbaglio?
                        Attualmente allevo:Cordylus beraduccii, Cordylus tropidosternum,Ouroborus cataphractus, Xenosaurus platyceps, Platysaurus imperator, Tiliqua gigas gigas, Tiliqua gigas keyensis, Tiliqua Irian Jaya, Celestus warreni, Egernia frerei, Hemispheriodon gerrardii, Ctenosaura defensor, Lepidophyma flavimaculatum,Geoemyda spengleri
                        Contro la stupidita' gli stessi dei lottano invano
                        un po' di foto https://www.facebook.com/marconyse/photos_albums

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                        • #13
                          ragazzi! rendetemi piu' partecipe!!!!eruditemi!! veramente non sto' nella pelle!!!! fra un po' scendo vado a prendere una macchina fotografica nuova, almeno 10mp e zoom almeno 5x!! (piu' di tanto non posso, la mia compagna mi ammazza!!)
                          Ultima modifica di topolino; 12-12-2008, 20:49.
                          There is a pleasure in the pathless woods; There is a rapture on the lonely shore; There is society, where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love no man the less, but nature more...(Lord Byron)
                          http://www.sanguefreddo.net/showthread.php?61893-Nuovo-terrario-definitivo-per-spikes!!
                          http://canedapresa.forumfree.it/

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                          • #14
                            comunque, ho preso una bella canon con 10mp e lo zoom a 6x.....le foto che faro' li dovrebbero venire benissimo....spero solo, poi, di potervele mandare!!
                            There is a pleasure in the pathless woods; There is a rapture on the lonely shore; There is society, where none intrudes, by the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love no man the less, but nature more...(Lord Byron)
                            http://www.sanguefreddo.net/showthread.php?61893-Nuovo-terrario-definitivo-per-spikes!!
                            http://canedapresa.forumfree.it/

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                            • #15
                              DAL SITO DELLO ZOO

                              The first breeding of Komodo dragons (Varanus komodoensis) in the Prague zoo
                              Komodo dragon – the biggest lizard of the world is an attractive species. Its exhibit is a matter of prestige, nevertheless, long-term keeping and breeding are sporadic and husbandry methods are still developing. Contrastingly to most other species of animals kept in advanced zoos, Komodo dragons have the tendency to die long before the supposed lifespan in the wild. EEP of this species registered several significant successes in the past years (1st reproduction on the Canary islands in 2004 and the hatching of the parthenogenetic youngsters in the zoos in London and Chester), but at the same time it was also affected by serious losses and so in the spring of 2006 there were only two adult females within EAZA institutions (Chester and Prague). As the situation was critical, a workshop was summoned to Rotterdam. Apart from the discussion on the husbandry conditions and metabolic problems, the importance of the Prague couple was highlighted there, as they could possibly become the desired founders of a high value for EEP.
                              When preparing Komodo dragons exhibit in the pavilion of Indonesian jungle in 2004 we bore in mind the negative experience from various zoos and we were trying hard to avoid the risky factors according to our experience and judgement. Here are the most important characteristics of the facility:
                              • <LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">The enclosure is very warm. The battery of 10 radiators of the total output of 20 000 watts emitting infrared light provides ambient temperature in the range of 35-45C (50C at the hottest places). Only the corners are cooler. <LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"> There is suitable light. The pavilion has got roof of glass and the exhibit is oriented to the southwest, UVB light that conditions the right metabolism of calcium is provided by two 300W Osram Ultra Vitalux lamps. <LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"> The facility is vertically structured and there is a large pool. The enclosure for two dragons has got 105 m2 and the space is vertically structured into 5 levels with the total elevation of 210 cm and so lizards when moving have to overcome the steps all the time. The water ditch is 160 cm deep and 13.5 m long and the dragons when exploring their territory use the pool for another beneficial activity, which is swimming.
                              • There are two ways of separating the animals. As the adult dragons are often aggressive to each other, the enclosure has got two caves (4 m2 each) for fast separation and there are also feet for bamboo poles and the facility can be in 20 minutes divided into two.
                              Based on the discussions in EEP there are two important factors in the animals' maintenance that activate them and limit the undesired body reserves:
                              • <LI class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">The feeding is intermittent and irregular in the "feast and fast" regime. The dragons get once in three or four weeks half a goat or sheep each, including the viscera, fur and bones. In the weeks after the feeding their agility and moving activities are on the increase.
                              • Exercises using the white-painted target.
                              The pair of Komodo dragons came to Prague as a present of the Indonesian president to the Czech president on the 26th Nov 2004 from Taman Safari Park Bogor. The courting and mating took place in July 2006 and both animals were four years old then. We also registered the activity leading to the laying of eggs on 4th Sept 2006 but we were not able to find the clutch. So we installed cameras above the facility and when watching the night activities on 28th March 07 we found out that the female dug a hole through the concrete floor covered by sand. Having examined the created cavity (more than 1 meter deep) we found five eggs deposited in the humid soil of the temperature 32C. The eggs (in 207th day of their incubation) weighed 220-276 grams and were cracked and two of them contained dead embryos. The other kept developing in the conditions of the incubator (30C) and from 16th to 25th April (i.e. after 224-233 days of incubation and 18-27 days after being deposited in the incubator) 3 healthy juveniles hatched. They weighed 104, 129 and 125 grams and measured 43.9, 45.9 and 44.6 cm. As the colourful young animals live in the trees we put them after the hatching to a high terrarium (110x60x80 cm) with many plants and branches. The 300W Osram Ultra Vitalux lamp is the source of light. Approximately after a week they started to accept food consisting of smaller mice and locusts and their development is still normal.
                              Despite the fact that the first breeding success of Komodo dragons in the Prague zoo made us very happy, we do not overestimate it. We consider it to be the first sign that the conditions are good and we hope that this will be confirmed by regular reproduction activity of the lizards and namely by their healthy development and naturally long life.
                              We would like to thank our colleagues from the zoo in Pilsen for all their experience they shared with us and also for their much-appreciated help with the sonographic examination of the Komodo dragons.

                              Petr Velensk,
                              The curator of reptiles in the Prague zoo

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